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Offline BruceW

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Deck pipe for CP 23
« on: December 31, 2013, 09:07:11 PM »
I did a search and found a comment in another thread, but not really much discussion.

I'd like to install a deck pipe big enough for the chain shackle to fit in. Yeah, I could put a small one in, and just put the rode in, but I'd just rather put it all down there.

Also, the only other boat where I had a deck pipe was my old Suncat, and there was a mast stub down there to tie off the bitter end to. Is there something below for that? Sure, I'll cleat the line when I let out the scope, but hey, I'd like a little fail safe working for me. The suncat had a small pipe, where the shackle wouldn't go down in, so that's why I want to choose the right pipe for this boat.

Anyway, what solutions have you folks implemented?
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New Bern: CP 23

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 06:31:45 AM »
Quite a while back, I put an oval one on my 23. 'Tis big enough for a very small dwarf to climb through. Of course, I can't remember where I got it...probably Defender...have you looked there?
http://www.defender.com/
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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2014, 08:14:58 AM »
For my CP-19 the pipe is only for my anchor line. The clevis and vinyl coated chain stay on deck and the anchor on the roller.
The smaller the whole on deck the better.

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 10:02:23 AM »
It is pretty easy to do with a Rotozip. I put one of these in:
http://www.boaterbits.ca/stainless-steel-oval-hawse-pipe-with-hinged-lid.html

Just trace the shape of the pipe over your original chain pipe hole and then cut it out with the Rotozip. Be sure to position the new pipe so that it isn't in the way of the line feeding from the chocks. I used butyl tape to seal it up.

I put a U bolt below to tie off the bitter end of the rode. Originally I had it tied to a piece of PVC that wouldn't fit through the hawsepipe.

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2014, 11:05:41 PM »
Thanks for points made, and examples. Not sure when I'll do this.

Re the ubolt below for bitter end, did you glass it in, or what? I will need to look in the locker and see what I could actually put there. Oh, and I like that tie it to the pvc idea, too.
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New Bern: CP 23

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 05:52:33 AM »
Shawn:
   That looks similiar to the one I installed. Mine has a nice feature, maybe yours does too: When it's opened, if the cover is slid sideways, it locks and stays opened. The hinge is spring loaded to keep it shut when closed.
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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2014, 09:15:54 AM »
Shawn:
   That looks similiar to the one I installed. Mine has a nice feature, maybe yours does too: When it's opened, if the cover is slid sideways, it locks and stays opened. The hinge is spring loaded to keep it shut when closed.
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My 23IV came with that feature, however, I just learned of it about a year ago.  Seems I learn something new about this boat every time I go out.  Until I found out about the sliding lock, I would just slip the lid under the furling line which passes just a few inches from the pipe.  When done stowing the rode, I just lift up on the furling line with my foot and let the spring loaded lid snap shut.  Come to think of it that is probably easier than using the slide lock. :)

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2014, 03:55:01 PM »
I bolted the U bolt through the plywood that divides the chain locker in half.

Bob, yup, mine has that same feature. Very handy when feeding the rode back in.

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 04:22:59 PM »
Good idea with the U-bolt...better than loosing all that line! I use red tape for the 20' and 10' marks on the rode but I should add the U-bolt. 
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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 07:54:51 AM »
Karma,

Thanks for the scoop on the ubolt and the rotozip.

Do you have a picture of the location you chose for the pipe installation?

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New Bern: CP 23

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 05:36:52 PM »
I have tried to get a picture of a deck pipe on a CP-23, but  haven't succeeded yet. I have taken a look at other boats in the marina, so I guess I can try to locate mine similarly; however, if any of yawl can take a picture of yours, and post here, that would be awesome!

I am figuring that since this will be a new hole, I will need to put epoxy in to seal off the hole prior to installation. My epoxy needs or at least recommends 70 degrees. I'm wondering if that means I need to wait to do this, or if any of you know something that would work in cooler temps.

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2015, 08:31:40 AM »
I am curious to see a picture of the oval deck pipe.  Particularly a picture on a boat where someone has changed out from a round deck pipe to the oval one.  I just bought an oval deck pipe and I will be changing it out next week. 

This is also a bit more complicated because I have a chain stop right beside my old deck pipe.  I need to remove that and put it in a new location.  I already needed to move it since it was there for a smaller anchor and now that I have a 22lb lewmar claw the stop is too close to the anchor.

Anyway, I am betting that this newer oval pipe will make putting the anchor rode back much easier.

If anyone can post a pic I would greatly appreciate it!

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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2015, 07:28:59 PM »
Not quite a replacement.  I kept the round one if I decide later to divide the locker for a second rode.





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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2015, 07:36:58 PM »
I took a slightly different route.
  In addition to leaving and using the original small round pipe, I added this oval one (from Defender, me thinks). I keep 100' of 1/2" line in the original and 150' of 5/8" line in the oval. Down below, I divided the area into 2 separate chambers so that the lines never mix. The main anchor is always attached to the 1/2" line which, in the waters I sail in, works just fine. I've been out in 25 knot blows overnight and the anchor, which is a Danforth knockoff homemade of stainless steel, has never dragged.
  The 5/8" line is for a bigger anchor that I can carry on brackets attached to the bow rail. On top of all this anchor-craziness, I carry a small forged Danforth with more 1/2" line that's used as a lunch hook or a second anchor. Not being a fan of swing at anchor, I deploy 2 at about 90 degrees to each other and, along with the riding sail that I fly, swing at anchor is reduced greatly.
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Re: Deck pipe for CP 23
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2015, 07:38:11 PM »
Thanks for the pic.  I never thought about angling it.  I will probably take a look at the inside of the chain locker before I install the new pipe.  Your chain stopper is in a neat location but the shank of my anchor may be too long to do that since I went up in anchor size.
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