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CP-25's / Re: Looking to upgrade from 23 to 25
« Last post by brackish on Today at 11:33:01 AM »
How many clams are ya thinking, Moonlight?

Bob, clams are not legal tender in South Louisiana.  You need to think in terms of how many bags of oysters. :)
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did you sell these?
Gary B at  katwishi@burlingtons.net
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CP-25's / Re: Looking to upgrade from 23 to 25
« Last post by Bob23 on Today at 07:46:42 AM »
How many clams are ya thinking, Moonlight?
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Sun Cats / Re: Solar Power for Battery Charging
« Last post by moonlight on Yesterday at 08:32:22 PM »
Sadly, I encounter these assumptions a great deal; and many get angry with me for pointing out the obvious.  But I'm in operations, not sales, so let's go down Reality Way one more time.

Why do you think 30W is ample solar power?  at 12V, that's 2.5A.  At five full hours a day (the standard used for solar chargers), that's net 12.5Ah/day.

What you must know is your consumption!
Nav Lights, LED or Incandescent?  Amps?  Hours per day?
GPS/Chartplotter?  Let's guess.  3A.  8 hours.  = -24Ah.
Tiller Pilot?  FORGET IT, at least in this equation.  Just the chartplotter used twice as much as you'd generate...

And what kind of battery?  Anything with lead in the formula has a 50% depth of discharge; which means your 72Ah Group 24 battery only has 36 usable amp hours.  A 92 Ah Group 27 = 46 useable.  Anything with lead in the formula can only be charged at 10% of it's Ah rate.  Et cetera.

Your trip is feasible.  Enviable.  Desirable.  But do the proper electrical balance calculations, homework, so you have a fun and enjoyable trip.
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CP-25's / Re: Looking to upgrade from 23 to 25
« Last post by moonlight on Yesterday at 08:16:16 PM »
I haven't been on the forum in quite some time either, but have a 2000 ComPac 25 (wheel steering, roller furling, inboard diesel, H/C Pressurized water, head w/ holding tank, getting a bottom job RIGHT NOW), going on the market this spring.

Basically a 3-year old boat w/ a 18-year title.  Was in sailing school/dealer inventory 2000-2003.  Dry stacked 2003-2008; recommissioned right before the recession hit.  Launched and sat.  My emphasis then (post recession) was fully on the service side, no more charters nor lessons.  Time to move on.

FOB New Orleans, LA.
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I wish I could come . . .  65 years ago, I used to crab and fish along the Manasquan Inlet opposite what is now Warfside.  Back then I dreamed of sailing one of those boats heading South for the Winter.  Now its Winter and I am South. 

My great granddad and granddad's generation owned 14 miles of the Jersey coast from the high tide line to the RR tracks.  The Woolley Fishery had fish camps up and down the shore using Pond Fishing Techniques.  The fishermen would row out to the pound, a circle of saplings with a net and a weir facing the tide, and scoop out the fish.  They would row back through the serf and pull the boats up with a horse, using logs as rollers. In the Winter,the guys would cut ice from nearby lakes, store the ice I pits under straw, and pack fish for Fulton's Market up the track in New York City during the Summer.  My granddad was one of the first to install a car engine in a boat to use inlets instead of pulling the fishing boats up through the serf.  During the great depression my family decided to continue supporting the families that worked for the company by selling off the land.  The Woolley Fishery eventually sold out the Crutchfield.
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Classifieds for Com-pac boats / Re: Com-Pac 23D
« Last post by fried fish on January 19, 2018, 06:52:56 PM »
Right on Robert!
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CP-19's / Re: Compac 19 vids on Youtube
« Last post by Jackrabbit on January 19, 2018, 06:03:25 PM »
 I guess I over-estimated the weight of the trailer, but, yep, the total weight with all the other "stuff" still warrants a minimum of 5000 LBS towing capacity for the long haul.

Also, the process of rigging a CP 19 is certainly not a trivial matter - fundamentally no different than any other marconi-rigged boat - and getting her properly set on the trailer during haulout can be a bit of work, so I definitely would not want to do this operation on a frequent basis.  Sounds like the Suncat is easier in this respect, and would have other good attributes as well (though I have no personal experience with that model). 

On the other hand, if you want a boat that sails like a witch, is stable, has a huge cockpit and is easy-peasy to launch and haul out, you would be hard pressed to find a better boat than the O'Day Mariner.  They can literally be launched on a beach.  And they can be had for a song!  But you would have to put up with a very small cabin which, while useable, is not very comfortable for extended cruising.  There's always a price to pay...

But, oh, the CP19 is just such a pretty boat in the eye of this beholder...
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Classifieds for Com-pac boats / Re: Com-Pac 23D
« Last post by Bob23 on January 19, 2018, 06:01:36 PM »
How many clams are you looking for?
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CP-19's / Re: Compac 19 vids on Youtube
« Last post by Salty19 on January 19, 2018, 05:13:04 PM »
MGS--

I feel like I've talked you out of the 19 based on the setup time discussion in the other thread which is certainly not the intent.   I think with a good "system", practice . ginpole, etc you definitely could trailer it. 

The Eclipse or even a Suncat however would be MUCH easier to setup.  I've seen both an Eclipse and several Suncats close up and they are really nice boats--very easy to setup and launch! The Eclipse would be a little larger than a 19 inside (wider, longer and more headroom) and offer a very short rigging time. 

As for trailering though---a 2,000 limit will not cut it with a CP19.  The boat itself weighs as least that much---more when you add any options, motor, etc. Then the trailer too...my stock performance trailer was 660lbs---it's now a lot heavier with extension, beefier axle, brakes and larger wheels.   You'll want something with a 3,500lb limit at minimum, IMO.

But no need for a big truck either unless you will be regularly towing longer distances.  I just sold a 2012 Mazda CX-9 that towed it fine around town and even the 400 mile trip one way to CLR.  As luck would have it, each time I trailered was pretty much the hottest day of the year, which is murder on longevity. The transmission wasn't horribly pleased about that as it showed some signs of damage (sometimes it would shift hard from park or reverse into drive--aside from that performed well-not enough to alert the next buyer/dealer).  However if I just did shorter local trips and didn't pull it 2,400 miles in 100* weather, I'm sure it would be fine.

Most of the larger crossovers are either 3,500 or 5,000lbs.    My 4.0L V6 4x4 Tacoma hauls about 6,800lbs if memory serves.  It pulls the CP19 easily and is a great little truck. I also found a used 2 year old model with 5,000 miles on it.  The Tacomas hold their resale value really well which hurts now but will help down the road.

The Suncat and Eclipse areo a lot lighter since there is much less ballast (1400 lbs, I thought?).  Maybe you wouldn't need a new truck with one of these?  Is it a Wrangler?  Those are not good tow vehicles as the wheelbase is too short, but slower speeds around town outta work OK.

For me if I had to trailer it each time and wanted a 19-20' foot boat, the Eclipse would be in the garage for sure.  You can probably find one for 10-12K that might need some work...maybe $15K for a better example.  Factoring in loss of selling your car, buying a new one, and a CP19 (about 4-6K depending on condition--newer XL's or examples in very nice shape can run more than 10K), the Eclipse may not be any more $$$. 
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