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Offline cdflan

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2016, 08:01:15 AM »
My Torqeedo Cruise 4.0 freewheels at about 3 1/2 knots and has not caused any problems.  When researching this issue during the design phase, the answer was that it does not affect the Torqeedo system.

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2016, 12:41:21 PM »
Nice set up. I'm glad to learn about the 5 ft. tiller extension cable. I assume the only reason you would need the stub tiller for the torqeedo would be if you needed more power to turn the boat in heavy chop? That's usually the only time I need to turn the motor - most of the time I just steer with the rudder.

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2016, 10:19:58 PM »
Gil, nice set up.  I can't see the tiller control panel with standard for illegal mounted to engin without leaning over the stern and reading upside down.  Your method is simple, and smart.

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2016, 10:21:27 PM »
Illegal or tiller, either I cannot type, spell, or my mind wandered....
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Offline Gil Weiss

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2016, 09:52:17 PM »
I need the stub tiller mainly for backing out of my slip. I turn the motor in conjunction with the tiller. Using both simultaneously can execute a very tight turn.  My set up works well. The stub tiller is a press fit into the motor. I have all removable parts tethered to the boat stern rail with 1/8th braided line. The battery and motor are tethered with 1/4 line.

I take off the tiller, stub tiller and battery but leave the motor stalk vertically on my boat while in the slip. The mount raises it so it just clears the water surface. The way the tiller mounts on the rear seat makes twisting it forward or backward intuitive.

This is my 4th year using the Torqeedo and it has worked perfectly. No more motor stress like I had with the gasoline engines.

Does anyone know what the required 5th year maintenance item is? It is mentioned in the manual
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2016, 11:22:49 PM »
This is my second year with my HDC and Toqeedo 1003L.  The Torqeedo has worked perfectly.  I use it to motor from my slip out to the inner harbor, and then back after sailing.  I usually have 70-75% battery left after bringing the boat back to the dock, so have not needed an extra battery,or solar charger. I do not use the tiller throttle on my boat.  Instead I bought the remote throttle and keep the motor locked forward.  The remote throttle is great, and my Torqeedo tilts up without rotating it during sailing.
Here is a YouTube vid using the remote throttle:
Rob

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Offline Wes

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2016, 08:33:52 AM »
Gil - any comments on performance of the T1003 on your 19 in various weather situations? Power, battery life, etc.? Curious minds want to know...
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2016, 10:41:46 AM »
For my situation in a lake this motor is perfect. At full speed it will move my CP19 at 5 mph. Range at that speed and battery drain is about 4 miles. At the "sweet spot" of about 2.2 mph range is about 20 miles. Its done OK in some 15 or more mph winds. But, we don't have any tides in the lake.

If I were at the Jersey shore in the bay, or on a tidal river,  I would pay attention to weather and tide forecasts. Going against a strong tide and wind, might be difficult. This motor generates around 3 hp. However, electrics have a lot of torque which is good to move a heavy boat at slow speed.

Since switching my 6 hp 4 stroke gas outboard to the Torqeedo 1003 4.5 years ago I have had no stress regarding stalling outboards, non staring outboards, etc. No gasoline to mess with, no smell, etc. You push the button to activate the, turn the throttle handle and go. Easy and stress free. . . .

BTW, the GPS system acts as a speedometer when sailing with the motor tilted out of the water.
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2016, 06:31:49 PM »
Was just checking the Torqeedo web site.  They have a new 915Wh battery for the 1003.  My current battery is about 530 Wh.  With the new battery you can go full throttle for 1 hour.  It's not cheap...$999 ($875 at Defender). This battery in combo with my current battery would fix my range worries!
Rob
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2016, 01:07:10 AM »
they appear to be the only players in the game right now so I guess they can command these prices.
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2016, 09:43:22 PM »
The important thing is that they are making a very high quality product.  My 1003 retailed for $1999, and i got it on sale from Defender for $1600.  A 4hp Yamaha is is $1499 at Defender, and Yamaha is the only gas outboard I would buy.  So Torqeedo is not that far off on their price, especially given that they are.on the cutting edge of a new technology.  Their customer service is also excellent.  I love that I don't have to deal with ethanol gas, and yearly maintenance.  Bringing a 10# battery home to charge is no big deal.  Also the lack of noise, vibration, and gasoline odor are great!
Rob
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2016, 02:56:03 AM »
In many respects, electric vehicles (EV) and torqeedos are similar.  The biggest obstacle to both is range and the accompanying "range anxiety", when compared to combustion engines. For the Torqeedo I suppose you could purchase another battery at $600 (not cheap at least for my budget) to double your range, which wouldn't work for an EV.  But I agree in terms of maintenance, electric vs. gas outboard, you can't beat the torqeedo.
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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2016, 08:48:07 AM »
Although Torqeedo is "the only (domestic) game in town" for outboards, Mastervolt has an extensive line of inboard and hybrid drives.  West Marine has a pretty good summary of alternative propulsion  -  http://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Electric-And-Hybrid-Propulsion-Systems

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2016, 07:59:26 PM »
Mr. Weiss:

     Elk River and wife would be interested in seeing the set up on the 19 at Lake Nockamixon some time.  Elk River just had part of left lung removed and anticipates that pulling the cord on his Honda 5 could be a problem and the Torquedo might really be the ticket.  Mrs. Elk is sure she's not going to be a reliable starter.  We are headed out to Denver for a month so won't be around to look for a while but SE PA is close enough if you are game.  We need to cogitate and make a plan to keep us mobile and independent.

     You can text me at: six one 7 - 78 zero - 9 five 93, or e-mail: bradley two-four-four (use the numbers) at gmail.com.

     Thank you,

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Re: Torqeedo and CP 19 MkII
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2016, 08:24:51 AM »
I just left the Annapolis Sailboat show and Torqeedo was there in force.  I had great discussions with there tech on some issues I had with prop removal.

I am adding the remote throttle, tracker app to show range, and need to make a stub tiller.  I will post photos when complete.

Torqeedo 1003, with extra battery is still "just" enough to get us home.  FYI- have storm jib now for long hauls...
Brian, Finbar Beagle's Dad

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CP 19 MkII- Galway Terrapin, Hull 372
Kettle Creek, Barnegat Bay, NJ