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Offline mrb

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Oil and Troubled Waters
« on: May 20, 2008, 02:17:37 PM »
In case you read the discusion about oil and water in sailing your CP raising mainsail started by Roland Corbin and have questions about oil or are thinking of experimenting with it I would like to direct you back to that discussion for info by mrb about Chapman's Book on piloting and seamanship.
Good sailing, If this works out Right Roland's post will be directly under this post.
I'M confused now  Melvin
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Past sail boats,20 ft life boat,Mayflower(lanteen sail), American 16, Aquarius 21 and Coronado 27, 84 Hunter 22
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Re: Oil and Troubled Waters
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 12:15:24 PM »
Melvin,
From what I can see, all those references are kinda out of date. Now without making the statement that Old is bad, (since I too have seen better days) I wonder if heaving too and using a sea anchor is a better way to attack a bad storm situation.
On the other hand, lets say you have to get off your boat and onto another in rolling high seas. Life is in peril. Oil might have its place there. :)

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Re: Oil and Troubled Waters
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 11:37:29 PM »
Newt

I agree that heaving too or use of sea anchor or drogue is the way to go.  I originally posted the oil solution as more of an oddity of what used to be acceptable.  I made this post because I was concerned that some one might try the oil where they shouldn't and end up with a huge fine. 
Good sailing
Melvin
As a side note I have a book written by the head national Forest ranger in the 50's.  He says a good way to mount a candle while camping is to drive two nails into a tree then heat them with the candle and push the candle into the nails.  Try that and see what kind of fine you get.  Oh well the world changes. Old ways not bad just a new way of looking at the environment.  L. Francis Herrshoff thought boating was a good place for a father to teach his son how to shoot.  Take the trusty 22 along and have son plink at things in the water.  I don't recall what he thought you should be shooting at. I once had two young Coast Guardsmen ask me if I had any guns on board.  As they asked the went into the quick draw stance. As I don't carry guns on my boat I did not get to see what they would have done if I had answered yes. I guess some things are better not known.
Again Good sailing, I had a great sail today
Melvin
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 11:44:20 PM by mrb »
1981 cp16 "At Eaze"
Past sail boats,20 ft life boat,Mayflower(lanteen sail), American 16, Aquarius 21 and Coronado 27, 84 Hunter 22
Melvin B.

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Re: Oil and Troubled Waters
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2008, 02:32:47 PM »
Again Good sailing, I had a great sail today
Melvin

And that my friends is what this forum is all about!:D

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Re: Oil and Troubled Waters
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2008, 10:55:09 AM »
I was sailing on a friend's cape Dory 28' intrepid about 5 years ago into Rockland Maine harbor.

The Navy has (I think a destroyer) in the harbor for the Lobster Festival. We were less than 100 yards from the boat and all of a sudden, from behind was a hard bottom Amphibeous craft with a middle age leader and two young 20 somethings...

The lead was asking me to bear off but with several fishing boats coming out and a ferry, I told him I would hold course until they pass and then bear off.

He said that was fine... the only concern was the 20 year old manning the 50 caliber machine gun on the deck.

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I was taking the Coast Guard safety and sailing classes at the time and they passed out a bright orange sheet with the 500 yard regulation for military vessels, so I told this story...

I am sure that this little sailboat could not get very close, very quickly to produce much damage, but it was a great education which my sons saw the seriousness of it all.

Have a good weekend

Bob C
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Re: Oil and Troubled Waters
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 12:09:45 AM »
Hi Bob

I replayed to your story about coast guard tow and then became confused and replied to you post here in same post as tow. Thats the site before this one which started with question about raising sail.  Interesting how one topic can evolve into something entirely diffrent.

Young men and guns scare me especially when they are Americans aiming at Americans.  I did a time as my units marshal at law and never carried a weapon on any kind and had the best record in the state.  My thought was you go to someones home with a weapon and your telling them something that maybe you really don't want to tell them.
Keep on sailing
Melvin
1981 cp16 "At Eaze"
Past sail boats,20 ft life boat,Mayflower(lanteen sail), American 16, Aquarius 21 and Coronado 27, 84 Hunter 22
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Re: Oil and Troubled Waters
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2008, 11:18:53 AM »
So me and my wife were on a Norwegian Cruse Line boat and Cuba could be seen on the horizon.

At dawn a Cuban gun boat came up on the portside and a young upstart Cuban went forward to a gun mount and swung twin 50's toward the boat.

Instantally I felt our ship increase revolutions...knowing what twins 50's can do, me and the wife walked over to the starboardside while other passengers dropped drawers and mooned the cubans egging them on in true diplomatic form.

At the Captain's dinner that night, he told us that the Cubans wanted to board us. So he put the petel-to-the-metal and steered away from 'Cuber'. skip.