I know you aren't the type to go off and cry if someone says what you've
done isn't quite perfect so I know you won't mind a few suggestions.
[insert one of those silly smiley things here.]
This is quite a change from the prior incarnations of the CPYOA site.
Those were more a small collection of useful tidbits of information and an
informal registry of CP owners. The old one was maintained by hand.
It complemented the yahoogorp forum quite nicely. This is more
automated and you've managed to get a lot of users and a lot of postings.
The down side seems to be that we've lost a few things. We lost the library
section that had compac specs and brochures. Its harder to see who is in
what region - this may be a reflection on the Internet itself but a lot of
people seemed to have omitted any contact information not even listing a
One of the main things I chose to do when taking over from Mike Q was to make the CPYOA a place where the owners provided the content, not just one guy at a keyboard somewhere. Mike spoke to me many times of his dismay at the lack of participation in the previous site, so I figured the best thing for me to do would be to put the tools in front of the CPYOA, and let them build the ship the way they want it.
This has worked pretty well, we have some great regulars and lots of new people all the time coming in to chip in with info, help, suggestions. I've been real pleased that people have found the forum easy to use, mostly.
This will also be easy to hand off to some future CPYOA webmaster in the future - all of the applications which make up the site are Open Source, and have wide user bases with both active developers and communities, so I expect them to remain viable for a number of years yet.
I still have a bit of information from the old site to add here, including a couple of the spec pages/brochure info (the ones posted so far are in their respective boat categories). They are more of a pain to convert than the other info that was there, but I'll try to get that back up towards the top of the list to complete. Other things are in the Articles section, I have most of the old content that was available on the prior CPYOA sites posted there.
Someone else suggested a Registry, that's something I'll try to find a solution for and, if successful in that quest, will add it within a week or so, maybe less. IIRC, I have a php Form Generator available through the hosting company that may work...
So now on to some constructive suggestions. If it is easy to change the
profiles section, add a pair of multiple questions on "where do you sail
most" and "where have you sailed". It would be better if this were a set
(a large set) of checkboxes with each state or at least regions, such as New
England, Mid-Atlantic, other Northeast, Great Lakes, Chesapeake,
Carolinas, etc. So we are not entirely US centric it would be nice to list
Canada, Mexico, Carribean (maybe more detail that that), Central
America, and at least each other continent.
It would be great if we could get people's LAT/LON but most people don't
have any idea what that is. We could also ask that question. The point
though is to make the location more searchable.
If we then had the ability to look to see the list of people who had checked a
given state or region, it might just catch on and when people updated their
profile we'd get some of those who had been previously registered.
Idea's noted, approved, and if possible, actionable.
Another thing would be to restore the library section.
Library section? I don't remember that. What we have now that may fill a similar functions: The Books and Movies categories here, and also the "Articles" category. Is that the sort of content you mean?
There should be a link from the forum page to the index page.
I can do that, will just have to figure out how. Curtis, if you knew how little I know about php and all this stuff, you'd be amazed that I've gotten it working this well.
To get to this point took 2 solid weeks of worth of effort at minimum - sitting in front of the computer for close to 12 hours a day. Then another couple of weeks getting it smoothed out a bit, and adding in the Gallery and Classifieds pages. You or Mike Q could probably have done it in a couple of days, I know. But I've no formal training in computers or coding, no exposure to learning about php except that, once I had this forum up and running, I'd open a file, hand edit, save, and run it to see if what I did worked. (I can see you cringe!
) Do lots of that, and even I can get the thing working with enough attempts.
I do not think you are attacking me, I am just letting you know that what we have here is the result of basically maximum effort with a minimum of finesse, in many ways.
For me the digest made the difference between something I was willing
to deal with and something I wouldn't have time for. When you set this
up I browsed the topics but I knew I'd never come back to the web page.
But I would read my email, so the digest should keep me active .
At this point , with the digest I wonder if the yahoo forum still serves a
purpose. Thats a digresssion.
Well, glad to have you aboard, hope we can start seeing posts from many of the guys who are bound in one way or another to the Yahoo site. I'd like to make it obsolete - for the same reasons you archive all that content.
Another thing that would make the forum really useful is if we could
really get a compac FAQ started. A good FAQ needs to have a lot of hand
editing and someone with the spare cycles to observe what questions keep
getting asked over and over again and collecting excerpts from good
answers on the forum. I had envisioned the FAQ section as a place to
discuss what should be in an FAQ. Maybe I can stop griping and
actually contribute in that way.
Let me know when you want to start... :evil grin and sadistic chuckle:
Anyway. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. And if I did TOUGH LUCK!
[insert another goofie smiley thing here.]
Seriously though. You've done a great job. Thanks.
Thanks, Curtis - no hurt feelings at all, anything you've named is something I'm aware of or have been aware of. I've gotten some help with the place from moderators and helpful folks in general, but all of the backend stuff is me flying solo, and it's time consuming, so it ain't all done yet.
We'll get there.
And have a great Thanksgiving. We compac sailors have a lot to be
thankfull for in life.
Thanksgiving was awesome. Lotta great food, good times with family. Didn't get to boat, but did get 2 more coats of Cetol on my new companionway hatchboards.
Again, Welcome Aboard, Curtis, and Thanks! Toss out ideas anytime!